# SEY Discord Browser Archive - 2026-06-10 ## Index - [seylance2897](#seylance2897) - [lancehedrick](#lancehedrick) - [opp4004](#opp4004) ## seylance2897 - `2026-06-10 00:12` `#what-are-you-brewing` Cupping is the best - `2026-06-10 00:13` `#what-are-you-brewing` i'm hoping soon we'll do some kind of 'public' cupping again... it might be more advanced/and industry focused... but, we'll see - `2026-06-10 00:15` `#what-are-you-brewing` id' want to do something more interesting than just cup sey coffees. anyone can do that at home if they want... i'd currate it a lot more with all the fing samples i have... let people taste stuff they normally would never be able to taste - `2026-06-10 00:17` `#what-are-you-brewing` ha i just don't want to do beginner cuppings... so i need to figure out how to do only advanced stuff without getting yelled at - `2026-06-10 00:18` `#what-are-you-brewing` yeah - `2026-06-10 00:19` `#what-are-you-brewing` haha this is kinda the problem is like how you do define 'advaned' - `2026-06-10 00:19` `#what-are-you-brewing` This checks out - `2026-06-10 00:24` `#what-are-you-brewing` this is certainly a goal! - `2026-06-10 00:30` `#what-are-you-brewing` i cup all the time with baristas - `2026-06-10 00:30` `#what-are-you-brewing` thats not what i'm personaly talking about - `2026-06-10 00:31` `#what-are-you-brewing` i want like a community like actual advanced cupping - `2026-06-10 00:31` `#what-are-you-brewing` yeah - `2026-06-10 00:32` `#what-are-you-brewing` properly good coffee tasters coming together.. like Sey House but more focused... producers, green buyers, roasters, enthusiasts... maybe some baristas get there... but more like actually collaborating / doing work... not education focused - `2026-06-10 00:34` `#what-are-you-brewing` ha I' am other lance - `2026-06-10 00:35` `#what-are-you-brewing` are you the famous football player? - `2026-06-10 00:35` `#what-are-you-brewing` please tell me your the famous football player - `2026-06-10 00:38` `#what-are-you-brewing` I'm bad at the internet, are being for real right now? - `2026-06-10 00:39` `#what-are-you-brewing` yeah like this.. this sounds amazing - `2026-06-10 00:46` `#what-are-you-brewing` even with the most calibrated people in coffee... its never looking at each other and saying 'exactly' - `2026-06-10 00:47` `#what-are-you-brewing` thats already going to happen - `2026-06-10 00:48` `#what-are-you-brewing` ha i'd argue that that is for a very different reason... but, this probably isn't the place for that conversation - `2026-06-10 00:53` `#what-are-you-brewing` haha i love the wow list. I'm going to make one - `2026-06-10 00:54` `#what-are-you-brewing` ha well yes.. i'm just not sure how much i'm allowed to swear on this thing - `2026-06-10 01:00` `#what-are-you-brewing` we can probably faciliate some of this... LH, myself, doug and Hao yung cup via zoom every other week - `2026-06-10 01:00` `#what-are-you-brewing` its obviously very important for work... but could open it up maybe once a month or something - `2026-06-10 01:00` `#what-are-you-brewing` its just challenging getting everyone the exact same coffee, roast batch, EY, water, table placement hahaha its a lot - `2026-06-10 01:06` `#what-are-you-brewing` it would be interesting... we approach these cuppings way more objectively because its work. For example... someone might have a preference for Ethiopian coffees and someone else might not love Burundi profiles... but I still expect them to know what a properly good Burundi profile should taste like and score it/ talk about it appropriately... same with Chiroso, same with Pinks, Geshas, etc.... - `2026-06-10 01:11` `#what-are-you-brewing` this is kinda what i'm kicking around - `2026-06-10 01:12` `#what-are-you-brewing` i haven't gotten the seaweed thing in this coffee which i do in other kenyans... but other than that.. this is a very similar experience that I have with this coffee - `2026-06-10 01:12` `#what-are-you-brewing` thank you so much for sharing... its a really interesting coffee so i'm interested to hear peoples experiences - `2026-06-10 01:12` `#what-are-you-brewing` yeah this - `2026-06-10 01:14` `#what-are-you-brewing` for maybe the first time ever i might agree with carl - don't screen shot this - `2026-06-10 01:16` `#what-are-you-brewing` i'll kick it around... I'm sure LH would fully be down haha.., I just need to think about it a little - `2026-06-10 01:18` `#what-are-you-brewing` i mean, gotta have at least a little gossip... - `2026-06-10 01:20` `#what-are-you-brewing` every call i have with suppiler - 90% talking shit, 10% okay cool, so how were the samples - `2026-06-10 01:28` `#what-are-you-brewing` You should try cupping more šŸ˜‚ - It equally demystifies - `2026-06-10 01:29` `#what-are-you-brewing` blind cupping bowls don't lie - `2026-06-10 01:30` `#what-are-you-brewing` 11.5g coffee 200g water 1.3 target tds Our QC water i believe has been posted 1000 times over the internet.. but can share again if helpful - `2026-06-10 01:30` `#what-are-you-brewing` hah people who know can also know by how one talks about coffees - `2026-06-10 01:31` `#what-are-you-brewing` nay UL cups perfectly fine... if its cereal in a cupping bowl its cereal brewed... aint no one has ever brewed cereal out of a coffee in my experience... I'm fully open for somoene to prove me wrong - `2026-06-10 01:32` `#what-are-you-brewing` you do have to grind it finer - `2026-06-10 01:32` `#what-are-you-brewing` I don't know i'm still confused about this one - `2026-06-10 01:32` `#what-are-you-brewing` finer, agitation fs things up - `2026-06-10 01:33` `#what-are-you-brewing` or at least too much agitation - `2026-06-10 01:34` `#what-are-you-brewing` blind triangulations will fool the best of people - `2026-06-10 01:34` `#what-are-you-brewing` they are very, very good. Also, heres one for you <@189881407399657472> set up 5 latin coffees blind, identify them. then leave the room and have someone mix up the bowls and try to identify them again - `2026-06-10 01:36` `#what-are-you-brewing` we do this but we do it with 20 coffees... ha i'd start wth 5 - `2026-06-10 01:36` `#what-are-you-brewing` haha watch Lance embarrass himself live, on the internet - `2026-06-10 01:37` `#what-are-you-brewing` its very, very good - `2026-06-10 01:37` `#what-are-you-brewing` once you get comfortable there.. do it with 5 washed ethiopian coffees.. if you can do that, i will be veru impressed - `2026-06-10 01:38` `#what-are-you-brewing` ha its so hard - `2026-06-10 01:38` `#what-are-you-brewing` I've been meaning to go taste wine with the som at 11 madison park... i just haven't had time for it. I will get around to it thogh - `2026-06-10 01:39` `#what-are-you-brewing` leader board is so tough though cause its fully random levels of quality and roast - `2026-06-10 01:39` `#what-are-you-brewing` and processing - `2026-06-10 01:40` `#what-are-you-brewing` yeah exatly that - `2026-06-10 01:42` `#what-are-you-brewing` this is an insane thing to say - `2026-06-10 01:45` `#what-are-you-brewing` I think we have a lot to learn from wine... i'm not entirely sure how or where the cross over is.. but, regardless there is stuff to learn there - `2026-06-10 01:45` `#what-are-you-brewing` I also need to go on a wine buying trip... i really want to talk to wine makers about terroir with people who can taste it really well - `2026-06-10 01:46` `#what-are-you-brewing` i think we have a lot to learn about acidity and cherry maturation from wine production - `2026-06-10 01:47` `#what-are-you-brewing` but to say a somm is more impressive than a coffee taster is just properly crazy ha - `2026-06-10 01:48` `#what-are-you-brewing` if anything, and i'm fully unqualified to make this claim... but i'd guess the opposite. simply because coffee isn't alcoholic... we can taste wayyyyyyy more coffees at a time than they can wine - `2026-06-10 01:50` `#what-are-you-brewing` also the lot seperations we taste in coffee are way way way smaller and more precise than wine. I can taste coffee from one tree against a coffee from the other tree. Our 'nano' lots would make wine producers lose their minds. But, they are way better at defining what they are tasting and blending... We will 100% start playing with blending process soon... something like 10% estalla nat with 40% estalla honey with 50% estalla washed... something like this - `2026-06-10 01:50` `#what-are-you-brewing` yes also this for sure - `2026-06-10 01:51` `#what-are-you-brewing` yeah its super interesting - `2026-06-10 01:52` `#what-are-you-brewing` hahaa yeah that coffee was legendary - `2026-06-10 01:52` `#what-are-you-brewing` we did blend it - `2026-06-10 01:53` `#what-are-you-brewing` yeah also just a super fun process - `2026-06-10 01:53` `#what-are-you-brewing` okay i have to go sample roast jose's coffees ha - `2026-06-10 22:19` `#current-menu` definitely not sub coffees this go around - `2026-06-10 22:19` `#current-menu` Sometimes we will put smaller, expensive lots into subs.. but not these [Back to index](#index) ## lancehedrick - `2026-06-10 10:58` `#filter-focused` I can make insanely good soup on met. - `2026-06-10 15:59` `#filter-focused` I cannot get away from more hollow cups with such small doses. I have done very similar recipes to this. Hollow can be seen as clarity, I guess, but for me it seems like there are nice florals on periphery but nothing in the middle, speaking visually. But, taste and perception is extremely subjective. And anything is valid lol But yeah- I stick at the 20-22g threshold because below that I get hollow. Even the best cups I have produced are not giving me more florals or complexity or punchiness. They may give something simialr, but in the periphery with a hollowness I cant jive with. But, again, my experience and others may try and adore. - `2026-06-10 16:10` `#filter-focused` For sure. I guess I was moreso giving my side of why I disagree the ceiling is higher with tiny doses. I do not find that to be the case. I can mimic the good from small doses with bigger ones without the negative. - `2026-06-10 16:17` `#filter-focused` Regardless, taste is subjective. Perception is subjective. We just here tryna taste yummy soup. - `2026-06-10 16:19` `#what-are-you-brewing` Super floral. Nice but tame citric presentation. Banger for sure. - `2026-06-10 16:22` `#what-are-you-brewing` needs 4 weeks for sure - `2026-06-10 16:22` `#what-are-you-brewing` cutie patooties - `2026-06-10 16:25` `#Brew-Along` la brew brew - `2026-06-10 17:34` `#Brew-Along` la brew brew [Back to index](#index) ## opp4004 - `2026-06-10 01:12` `#what-are-you-brewing` Verified by the gatekeeper? šŸ˜Ž - `2026-06-10 01:18` `#what-are-you-brewing` Cupping sessions: half coffee evaluation, half secret negotiations. Maybe a little gossip too - `2026-06-10 01:34` `#what-are-you-brewing` Review in progress: Copa de Oro Western #1 Attachments: - [IMG_1283.JPEG](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1483078064119222384/1514050156721602572/IMG_1283.JPEG?ex=6a367ad7&is=6a352957&hm=20e86023206b638c7362a6c4b36b1e709905022dbde5b3f8da6bb70a72d46677&) (image/jpeg 1536x2048) - `2026-06-10 01:38` `#what-are-you-brewing` I tried doing a leaderboard once, and that was enough for me. Blind tasting drives me insane - `2026-06-10 01:39` `#what-are-you-brewing` from Doan - `2026-06-10 01:40` `#what-are-you-brewing` Exactly. You'll be sitting there thinking, ā€˜Wow, they completely messed up this roast,ā€™ and then you reveal the coffee and it turns out to be an Ethiopian decaf - `2026-06-10 01:41` `#what-are-you-brewing` Doan is selling some coffees right now, but by the time you get around to ordering, they'll probably be offering something completely different - `2026-06-10 01:44` `#what-are-you-brewing` I've actually been fooled before. It turned out to be the exact same Karimikui roasted by the same roaster, but one came through a subscription and the other was bought locally in person. I was convinced one of them was a Rwandan coffee - `2026-06-10 01:48` `#what-are-you-brewing` That's a dangerous statement, ha - `2026-06-10 01:49` `#what-are-you-brewing` But honestly i kind of agree - `2026-06-10 01:50` `#what-are-you-brewing` Personally, I'm a bit skeptical of evaluations from people whose palates are heavily shaped by alcohol. So... - `2026-06-10 01:56` `#what-are-you-brewing` Looks like something interesting happened while I was asleep... - `2026-06-10 02:01` `#what-are-you-brewing` Yeah - `2026-06-10 02:01` `#what-are-you-brewing` I've never seen anyone call South Korea ā€˜SKā€™ before, haha - `2026-06-10 02:01` `#what-are-you-brewing` Cool - `2026-06-10 02:04` `#what-are-you-brewing` Anyway, I'm currently drinking the 1st Place winner of Copa de Oro Western: San Jose, a Gesha variety. I'm getting notes of pineapple, soft chamomile beneath the pineapple, gentle lemon-like acidity, a delicate musky aroma, and a touch of herbs. The coffee was roasted just yesterday, so it's not exactly exploding with aromatics yet, but it's already showing a lot of promise. Even at this stage, it's a very good coffee. - `2026-06-10 02:06` `#what-are-you-brewing` The roaster is lurking here too... but I'll leave it at that, haha - `2026-06-10 02:06` `#what-are-you-brewing` Copa de Oro is such a great competition. To be fair, it's not quite as exciting as it used to be now that Geshas are everywhere, haha. But seeing varieties like Aji show up reminds me that it's still a competition worth paying attention to. - `2026-06-10 02:09` `#what-are-you-brewing` These days, they all seem pretty similar, even the coffees that come through Korean retailers have been quite good. - `2026-06-10 02:09` `#what-are-you-brewing` Aji is a really interesting variety - `2026-06-10 02:10` `#what-are-you-brewing` I do wish Lance would bring in more Aji, ha.. Then again, I suspect a lot of people would hate it if he kept releasing coffees that taste like chili peppers - `2026-06-10 02:11` `#what-are-you-brewing` chili - `2026-06-10 02:12` `#what-are-you-brewing` I still haven't gotten my hands on that yet... Maybe one of my friends has a bag. I'm not sure. - `2026-06-10 02:14` `#what-are-you-brewing` Hmmā€¦ maybe chiroso just tends to taste like that in general? ha - `2026-06-10 02:16` `#what-are-you-brewing` I had a bit of a bias going in because William Ortiz is from the Pitalito regionā€”you know, given some of the well-known names from that area like the Lasso brothers. But it turned out to be completely the opposite of what I expected. He actually produces really clean coffees - `2026-06-10 02:17` `#what-are-you-brewing` I kind of think the Lasso brothers are the main ones responsible for ā€˜weird coffeeā€™ spreading around that regionā€¦ ha. Though to be fair, that's more of a cupping-table kind of gossip - `2026-06-10 02:18` `#what-are-you-brewing` šŸ˜¶ā€šŸŒ«ļø - `2026-06-10 02:31` `#what-are-you-brewing` Wellā€¦ starting around summer 2024, itā€™s true that the intensity of flavors did seem to ramp up. I assumed there were some internal decisions behind that changeā€”especially since Iā€™ve repeatedly heard feedback that some of the producers supplying SEY were leaning a bit underdeveloped. Personally, I didnā€™t really have a problem with it. I just saw it as a matter of taste. So for me, it never felt like an issueā€”just a stylistic preference - `2026-06-10 02:43` `#what-are-you-brewing` I guess I shouldā€™ve joined the discord a bit earlier - `2026-06-10 02:45` `#what-are-you-brewing` I joined after seeing LH promoting it, haha. SEY really hired someone good there - `2026-06-10 02:57` `#what-are-you-brewing` Haha, go buy more Big Sur! - `2026-06-10 02:59` `#what-are-you-brewing` Iā€™m looking at Hyunah, and Triple is still on sale? Thatā€™s surprising - `2026-06-10 03:00` `#what-are-you-brewing` Triple Fermentation isnā€™t really what most people think it isā€¦ - `2026-06-10 03:01` `#what-are-you-brewing` If I said it's basically a similar process to the Danche or Chorso lots SEY is sellingā€¦ would people actually buy it? ha - `2026-06-10 03:02` `#what-are-you-brewing` Thatā€™s my chinese dream šŸ¤£ - `2026-06-10 03:03` `#what-are-you-brewing` Mohamed Aba Nura is one of the few successful single-producer projects from Jimma - `2026-06-10 03:04` `#what-are-you-brewing` Of course, Iā€™ve always considered Kuma one of the most underrated roasters - `2026-06-10 03:04` `#what-are-you-brewing` Very, very underrated - `2026-06-10 03:17` `#what-are-you-brewing` Buy more OXO, thank you - `2026-06-10 03:21` `#what-are-you-brewing` This used to be my setup Attachments: - [IMG_0169.JPEG](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1483078064119222384/1514077114289356800/IMG_0169.JPEG?ex=6a3693f2&is=6a354272&hm=2a83d57d239eb6f80a9db6551c9f08112dd8e721ca2b1ec05d5d8ee9d1735ddb&) (image/jpeg 1536x2048) - `2026-06-10 03:22` `#what-are-you-brewing` Yeah, thatā€™s not a bright, light-style roast. Still, they do coffee well - `2026-06-10 04:25` `#what-are-you-brewing` No smoking, no alcohol, regular exerciseā€”no food rituals before coffee, and no coffee on bad mood days - `2026-06-10 04:27` `#what-are-you-brewing` I think not smoking is the most important thing - `2026-06-10 04:29` `#what-are-you-brewing` And also taking care of your nose - `2026-06-10 04:29` `#what-are-you-brewing` In the end, it all just means staying healthy - `2026-06-10 06:53` `#what-are-you-brewing` I think this is my sixth time drinking a coffee from Octavio Rueda. His coffees have always been good, but this one is shockingly floral. I'm getting a honeysuckle-like floral note intertwined with fresh strawberry, a refreshing herbal character that seems to cleanse the palate, buttercup-like florals, stone-fruit notes reminiscent of loquat, elegant earth-rose florals, and the sweetness of ripe mulberry. I generally don't like making direct comparisons between coffees, but this one reminds me remarkably of Gachiku, which I drank recently šŸ¤Æ - `2026-06-10 06:53` `#what-are-you-brewing` Attachments: - [IMG_1288.JPEG](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1483078064119222384/1514130430498963637/IMG_1288.JPEG?ex=6a36c599&is=6a357419&hm=aa276fc7260bf6ee48f04f3bc2d6c356f0e1d23f370b4d8748e40c7d6acfc663&) (image/jpeg 3024x4032) - `2026-06-10 14:48` `#filter-focused` - `2026-06-10 15:14` `#filter-focused` It's been updated. Don't pump it quickly anymore - `2026-06-10 15:15` `#filter-focused` What I told you is actually the latest recipe - `2026-06-10 15:16` `#filter-focused` I'm curious to hear Doug's reaction - `2026-06-10 15:16` `#filter-focused` ORB magic šŸŖ„ - `2026-06-10 15:17` `#filter-focused` Oxo Rapid Brewer - `2026-06-10 15:17` `#filter-focused` everyone here just calls it ORB - `2026-06-10 15:44` `#filter-focused` A slightly easier-drinking recipe: 14g coffee Grind size: about the texture of coarse salt One filter on the bottom An AeroPress-style standard filter on top (optional, but if you don't use it, grind slightly finer), no tamping 240ml water 94ā€“97Ā°C Press the pump very slowly. Once you hear the gas escaping, you're done. This produces a lighter, more expressive cup with greater clarity and aromatics. That said, I think this recipe works best with a conical burr grinder. - `2026-06-10 15:46` `#filter-focused` My impression is that the 22g recipe has a higher floor, while the 14g recipe has a higher ceiling. The 22g version is incredibly dependable and produces a consistently satisfying cup. The 14g version is a little more sensitive, but when it works, it can be exceptional. These days I'm mostly brewing the 22g recipe because I have far too many coffees on hand and want to get through them efficiently. Historically, though, I spent much more time with the 14g recipe. - `2026-06-10 15:49` `#filter-focused` No TDS measurementsā€”just my tongue and nose šŸ˜‚ - `2026-06-10 15:53` `#filter-focused` The whole point of my recipe is simple: easy and delicious. That's always been the goal. From the Tricolate to the NextLevel and Pulsar, now on ORB... that's been my approach all along - `2026-06-10 16:02` `#filter-focused` Yeah, that's right. The biggest drawback is that the texture can feel a little hollow at times.. That's one of the reasons I always use an stainless filter on top. It seems to help a bit with that. As for the 14g recipe, I don't really use it for reviews or evaluation. It's more of a ā€˜turn my brain off and enjoy the coffeeā€™ kind of recipe. It's not analyzing the cupā€”It just enjoying - `2026-06-10 16:03` `#filter-focused` Rather than following the progression of flavors and aromas, I just enjoy whatever pops out at each moment - `2026-06-10 23:28` `#filter-focused` Yeah [Back to index](#index)