# SEY Discord Browser Archive - 2026-05-17

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## seylance2897

- `2026-05-17 16:43` `#origins-and-producers`
  ha well now i'm holding frozen samples of anything and everything interesting.. so if we're still alive in 10 years we can do it then 😂

- `2026-05-17 16:44` `#origins-and-producers`
  I'll try to get my hands on this. Usually IHCAFE90 is pretty vegetal for me. But, certainly respect Tim W and all the work hes done over the years <23

- `2026-05-17 16:46` `#origins-and-producers`
  Over time its been pretty well documented that if you plant a self pollenated tree from seed over a couple generations that that will deteriorate over time.

- `2026-05-17 16:48` `#origins-and-producers`
  grafting is the best way to mainting quality and genetics... Stumping and soil is the best way for plants long term. there are some trees in kenya that are over 150 years old that just continue to get stumped. Its really crazy

- `2026-05-17 19:11` `#origins-and-producers`
  this is what makes ethiopia so unique.. although it is changing... but they have the most genetic diveristy of coffee in the world

- `2026-05-17 19:18` `#origins-and-producers`
  I'll certainly check out the coffee! I think a lot of these coversations around hybrids and quality potential is super interesting, especially in a space like this. With context, i.e sustaibaility, farmer viability, economic stability etc... These varieties are extremely important. However, at the top top end of specialty, most consumers just taste the cup and the cup scores just don't have a high enough ceiling when tasted without context. For example, and 86.5 hybird is an amazing coffee. But when people just taste that in isolation its gets absolutely destroyed by the internet and 'coffee review' type people. 
  
  IMO they are reviewed inappropriately. A Hybrid variety in Honduras should not be reviewed against an ethiopian landrace. They are fundamentally differnet things and should be reviewed as such. I.e This is an exceptionally good version of Batian grown in Honduras. OR a caturra from Colombia etc. But, to disregard them as 'bad' coffees because they have different profiles, or lower cup score ceilings, I personally feel like it misses the larger coffee context and landscape.

- `2026-05-17 19:22` `#origins-and-producers`
  Right now, I think everyone is simply interested in chasing the highest cup scores... but I feel like this really misses the opportunity to explore all different profiles and celebrate the diversity of the best representation of variety and terroir. We can still be interested in 'highest quality' but if that is simply defined by cup score.. I personally think that is extremely narrowly focused

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## lancehedrick

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